1 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:21,830 [Music] 2 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:42,569 explode the bazaar or e-ticket ride into 3 00:00:47,790 --> 00:00:44,489 the world of the paranoid 4 00:00:52,069 --> 00:00:47,800 strap yourself even as we traverse the 5 00:00:55,189 --> 00:00:52,079 universe exploring the unexplained UFO s 6 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:55,199 ghosts Lost Worlds 7 00:01:01,439 --> 00:00:57,610 cryptozoology waters as well as other 8 00:01:06,570 --> 00:01:01,449 dimensions it's time to take back the 9 00:01:09,690 --> 00:01:06,580 night now your electrifying hosts of 10 00:01:16,529 --> 00:01:09,700 exploring the bizarre Timothy Begley and 11 00:01:19,889 --> 00:01:16,539 team sports Big Jim since tonight's show 12 00:01:23,100 --> 00:01:19,899 is about remote viewing didn't you used 13 00:01:25,410 --> 00:01:23,110 to know Ingo Swann we hadn't lunched 14 00:01:29,700 --> 00:01:25,420 together a few times but they didn't 15 00:01:32,730 --> 00:01:29,710 know him in the biblical sense oh that's 16 00:01:34,740 --> 00:01:32,740 good but did you ever learn anything 17 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:34,750 from him yeah I tell you what I learned 18 00:01:38,550 --> 00:01:36,970 I learned not to eat the meatball heroes 19 00:01:42,030 --> 00:01:38,560 at miss Kay's talk about the in 20 00:01:44,340 --> 00:01:42,040 digestion I thought it was John keel who 21 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:44,350 taught you that oh yeah that's right I 22 00:01:48,149 --> 00:01:46,810 don't know a finger even ate meat not 23 00:01:48,899 --> 00:01:48,159 that there was much meeting those 24 00:01:50,670 --> 00:01:48,909 meatballs 25 00:01:54,260 --> 00:01:50,680 but anyway Tim can you help me with this 26 00:01:57,690 --> 00:01:54,270 remote viewing I'm trying to do me I 27 00:01:59,670 --> 00:01:57,700 don't think so I haven't been trained I 28 00:02:01,380 --> 00:01:59,680 wouldn't even know where to start 29 00:02:03,359 --> 00:02:01,390 what's to know just put some new 30 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:03,369 batteries in this remote control for me 31 00:02:08,100 --> 00:02:05,170 will ya I want to watch the Yankee game 32 00:02:11,039 --> 00:02:08,110 oh oh oh oh oh that kind of remote 33 00:02:13,920 --> 00:02:11,049 viewing well ok you can't watch the game 34 00:02:16,050 --> 00:02:13,930 now we have a new episode of exploring 35 00:02:18,870 --> 00:02:16,060 the bizarre getting ready to start well 36 00:02:21,390 --> 00:02:18,880 set the VCR for me so I can remote view 37 00:02:24,599 --> 00:02:21,400 the game later well yeah no no no no 38 00:02:30,569 --> 00:02:24,609 time Tina is teleporting us to the KCR 39 00:02:31,349 --> 00:02:30,579 Studios right geez I'll never get to 40 00:02:35,370 --> 00:02:31,359 watch the game 41 00:02:37,170 --> 00:02:35,380 yo Yankees go he went analysis I'll have 42 00:02:41,130 --> 00:02:37,180 to remote view it from my seat here in 43 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:41,140 my office area they were they were ahead 44 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:47,290 by I think six or seven runs you know a 45 00:02:51,780 --> 00:02:51,010 template we just heard some rather said 46 00:02:54,449 --> 00:02:51,790 new 47 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:54,459 you know I'm always up on 48 00:03:01,050 --> 00:02:57,610 synchronicities I mean it seems like I'm 49 00:03:05,460 --> 00:03:01,060 stuck in the matrix here or whatever 50 00:03:06,630 --> 00:03:05,470 I've even written a 450 page book about 51 00:03:08,729 --> 00:03:06,640 philip k dick and while my 52 00:03:10,470 --> 00:03:08,739 synchronicities I mean it's just tons of 53 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:10,480 them and we're not talking about you 54 00:03:14,729 --> 00:03:13,090 know and somebody thinking of you and 55 00:03:18,390 --> 00:03:14,739 they call on the phone the next day or 56 00:03:20,940 --> 00:03:18,400 something that would course stuff anyway 57 00:03:23,580 --> 00:03:20,950 a couple of days ago I had a 58 00:03:25,259 --> 00:03:23,590 conversation with my friend the Helen 59 00:03:28,259 --> 00:03:25,269 hollaby who helped me on the book about 60 00:03:31,110 --> 00:03:28,269 the David Bowie and while I yell mark 61 00:03:34,289 --> 00:03:31,120 about witchcraft in in New York and the 62 00:03:36,899 --> 00:03:34,299 rock music in the early 1970s and she 63 00:03:39,030 --> 00:03:36,909 hits out found some really great 64 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:39,040 photographs of dr. John the night 65 00:03:46,050 --> 00:03:41,530 tripper who was like the king of New 66 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:46,060 Orleans funk music Dixieland I know 67 00:03:52,619 --> 00:03:48,370 exactly how you describe it but he he 68 00:03:55,289 --> 00:03:52,629 was a number one anyway I suggested to 69 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:55,299 Helen that she get in touch with dr. 70 00:03:59,369 --> 00:03:57,250 Johns management and maybe they would 71 00:04:01,289 --> 00:03:59,379 could do something with the photographs 72 00:04:03,599 --> 00:04:01,299 because these were extreme close-up 73 00:04:05,909 --> 00:04:03,609 pictures he had come over to my occult 74 00:04:09,119 --> 00:04:05,919 center with all his you know his 75 00:04:11,129 --> 00:04:09,129 headdress voodoo headdress on and the 76 00:04:13,319 --> 00:04:11,139 makeup and he brought all his oils and 77 00:04:16,170 --> 00:04:13,329 candles and incense and the whole a bit 78 00:04:17,789 --> 00:04:16,180 and we took New Orleans gris-gris uh you 79 00:04:19,009 --> 00:04:17,799 know for a while that I've run into him 80 00:04:23,129 --> 00:04:19,019 a couple of times over the years 81 00:04:26,939 --> 00:04:23,139 unfortunately the doctor passed away 82 00:04:32,159 --> 00:04:26,949 from a heart attack June 6th 83 00:04:34,469 --> 00:04:32,169 mmm which is very very unfortunate but 84 00:04:36,210 --> 00:04:34,479 and we'll certainly miss him we had a 85 00:04:38,850 --> 00:04:36,220 couple of really good conversations I I 86 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:38,860 had seen him perform for the first time 87 00:04:46,290 --> 00:04:42,490 I think was back in probably 1969 it was 88 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:46,300 at a Randall's Reynolds island festival 89 00:04:51,750 --> 00:04:48,130 that had been taken over by the Black 90 00:04:55,649 --> 00:04:51,760 Panthers oh man so easy it was hey it 91 00:04:58,290 --> 00:04:55,659 was a free concert but Jimi Hendrix was 92 00:05:00,180 --> 00:04:58,300 on the program and dr. John and you know 93 00:05:02,370 --> 00:05:00,190 I was sitting in the field in there I 94 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:02,380 admit kind of looped out on whatever 95 00:05:09,089 --> 00:05:05,770 psychedelics was coming by on that 96 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:09,099 that day and here here he is all garbed 97 00:05:15,210 --> 00:05:13,330 out with his mojo stick and and his 98 00:05:17,189 --> 00:05:15,220 headdress of the whole bit and the 99 00:05:18,870 --> 00:05:17,199 lights are down and low and colored 100 00:05:21,510 --> 00:05:18,880 lights and all and he comes in he 101 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:21,520 sprinkles the Grigri dust all over the 102 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:23,650 audience women back I'm saying I'm open 103 00:05:31,339 --> 00:05:28,090 it was an experience to behold now in 104 00:05:35,300 --> 00:05:31,349 later at times he didn't go into the 105 00:05:38,219 --> 00:05:35,310 motif all that much he kind of was 106 00:05:41,850 --> 00:05:38,229 subdued as far as that goes but we got 107 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:41,860 some really good close-up photos of the 108 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:44,650 doc there but unfortunately he's not in 109 00:05:48,870 --> 00:05:47,050 the house any longer because he passed 110 00:05:52,499 --> 00:05:48,880 away and we will miss him and we will 111 00:05:59,159 --> 00:05:52,509 miss his unique brand of music yeah you 112 00:06:03,270 --> 00:05:59,169 write and you've you've got a picture of 113 00:06:06,529 --> 00:06:03,280 him in his full head gear in your in 114 00:06:11,399 --> 00:06:06,539 your book David Bowie witchcraft UFOs 115 00:06:14,730 --> 00:06:11,409 cocaine and paranoia no that's true and 116 00:06:16,589 --> 00:06:14,740 in fact the management dr. jeong's 117 00:06:19,409 --> 00:06:16,599 management has indicated that they're 118 00:06:22,050 --> 00:06:19,419 going to try to get one of Helens photos 119 00:06:25,350 --> 00:06:22,060 on the cover of a major music magazine 120 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:25,360 that is planning to do a retrospective 121 00:06:32,070 --> 00:06:29,289 story on dr. John so dr. John wherever 122 00:06:36,059 --> 00:06:32,080 you are we bless your bed and we loved 123 00:06:40,140 --> 00:06:36,069 your entertainment and there you go all 124 00:06:42,540 --> 00:06:40,150 right well what I think we need to go 125 00:06:46,409 --> 00:06:42,550 ahead and get on with the the show then 126 00:06:52,649 --> 00:06:46,419 Tim and we've got a absolutely fantastic 127 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:52,659 guest tonight's we have John Bianco I 128 00:06:55,740 --> 00:06:54,330 hope I'm pronouncing that right John 129 00:07:00,120 --> 00:06:55,750 vivillon go 130 00:07:03,450 --> 00:07:00,130 Evon go it yes there you go well John is 131 00:07:07,469 --> 00:07:03,460 author speaker instructor of the remote 132 00:07:10,020 --> 00:07:07,479 viewing method transdimensional systems 133 00:07:12,809 --> 00:07:10,030 he's an investigator and he's been 134 00:07:15,029 --> 00:07:12,819 remote viewing and teaching students for 135 00:07:16,829 --> 00:07:15,039 over 20 years now he was part of the 136 00:07:18,690 --> 00:07:16,839 first civilian remote viewing 137 00:07:20,580 --> 00:07:18,700 organizations after the government 138 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:20,590 to classified the program and his 139 00:07:24,630 --> 00:07:22,210 organization was hired to investigate 140 00:07:28,980 --> 00:07:24,640 the unknown including work with the FBI 141 00:07:31,380 --> 00:07:28,990 after 9/11 on counter-terror is and with 142 00:07:34,050 --> 00:07:31,390 corporations on business issues now 143 00:07:35,700 --> 00:07:34,060 searches for lost treasures have led him 144 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:35,710 to collaborating with National 145 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:38,170 Geographic Channel and continues to this 146 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:40,930 day developing ideas around television 147 00:07:47,070 --> 00:07:43,930 teaching investigating and running a 148 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:47,080 team of remote view viewers on several 149 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:49,450 exciting projects now John's also the 150 00:07:55,020 --> 00:07:51,970 author of the book the time for the 151 00:07:58,470 --> 00:07:55,030 secret words on the path of remote 152 00:07:59,970 --> 00:07:58,480 viewing high strangeness and Zen so John 153 00:08:02,160 --> 00:07:59,980 thank you very much for being with us 154 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:02,170 tonight on exploring the bizarre huh 155 00:08:06,450 --> 00:08:04,810 thanks I'm I'm happy to be here you guys 156 00:08:10,830 --> 00:08:06,460 are you guys are the best 157 00:08:13,590 --> 00:08:10,840 oh god bless you man hey I I have I have 158 00:08:14,970 --> 00:08:13,600 a question yeah no I I would suppose 159 00:08:18,690 --> 00:08:14,980 obviously have a question I'm the 160 00:08:20,610 --> 00:08:18,700 co-host but you know I'm sure most of 161 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:20,620 our listeners are familiar with remote 162 00:08:27,540 --> 00:08:22,330 viewing it's gotten a lot of publicity 163 00:08:30,540 --> 00:08:27,550 in in recent times but give us a just a 164 00:08:34,260 --> 00:08:30,550 paragraph what remote viewing is and how 165 00:08:40,530 --> 00:08:34,270 it differs let's say from out-of-body a 166 00:08:44,219 --> 00:08:40,540 projection or any of the other traveling 167 00:08:47,460 --> 00:08:44,229 modes where you can see things at a at a 168 00:08:50,130 --> 00:08:47,470 distance yeah you know remote viewing 169 00:08:54,180 --> 00:08:50,140 it's it's really a very very controlled 170 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:54,190 way to use clairvoyance or ESP and its 171 00:08:59,970 --> 00:08:57,010 really a protocol or a methodology that 172 00:09:03,600 --> 00:08:59,980 someone's trained in and they use it in 173 00:09:07,140 --> 00:09:03,610 order to perceive people places objects 174 00:09:08,820 --> 00:09:07,150 or events located elsewhere from them in 175 00:09:11,340 --> 00:09:08,830 time and space you know we call it 176 00:09:13,890 --> 00:09:11,350 non-local information you know the past 177 00:09:15,510 --> 00:09:13,900 and the future have no bearing on being 178 00:09:19,070 --> 00:09:15,520 able to Remote View something 179 00:09:21,570 --> 00:09:19,080 nor does distance or any amount of time 180 00:09:23,190 --> 00:09:21,580 so you know essentially you can remote 181 00:09:24,870 --> 00:09:23,200 view something or someone down the 182 00:09:27,030 --> 00:09:24,880 street from you in one session the other 183 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:27,040 you could be viewing some civilization 184 00:09:32,130 --> 00:09:29,650 across the universe or something even in 185 00:09:32,910 --> 00:09:32,140 the distant past of Earth's so it's it's 186 00:09:36,410 --> 00:09:32,920 this 187 00:09:38,460 --> 00:09:36,420 methodology that was created 188 00:09:41,129 --> 00:09:38,470 specifically by our intelligence 189 00:09:45,929 --> 00:09:41,139 services in order to just turn psychics 190 00:09:49,470 --> 00:09:45,939 in despise and where it differs from the 191 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:49,480 you know out-of-body experiences are 192 00:09:55,590 --> 00:09:52,689 astral projection is that remote viewing 193 00:09:58,249 --> 00:09:55,600 is more of this in word psychic 194 00:10:00,780 --> 00:09:58,259 functioning where you receive sensations 195 00:10:03,150 --> 00:10:00,790 across the board you know you don't you 196 00:10:05,759 --> 00:10:03,160 don't go into this full separation from 197 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:05,769 body and and have visuals like a movie 198 00:10:10,229 --> 00:10:07,689 playing out in your head you have these 199 00:10:12,629 --> 00:10:10,239 almost subtle sensations coming through 200 00:10:17,789 --> 00:10:12,639 you that you're writing down with in a 201 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:17,799 very controlled structure and we as 202 00:10:21,169 --> 00:10:19,689 remote viewers we never know one of the 203 00:10:23,849 --> 00:10:21,179 big things about this is we never know 204 00:10:26,039 --> 00:10:23,859 what we're gonna be tasked to remote 205 00:10:29,009 --> 00:10:26,049 view we're kept blind to that so we 206 00:10:31,769 --> 00:10:29,019 can't make things up so it can be a 207 00:10:35,009 --> 00:10:31,779 really visceral experience you can have 208 00:10:37,139 --> 00:10:35,019 the visuals but you're typically within 209 00:10:38,579 --> 00:10:37,149 your body you're grounded you know in 210 00:10:41,729 --> 00:10:38,589 your seat because you're writing on 211 00:10:44,009 --> 00:10:41,739 paper and you're not you know slipping 212 00:10:48,299 --> 00:10:44,019 out into another world unless you have 213 00:10:50,939 --> 00:10:48,309 this bilocation experience which by yeah 214 00:10:53,159 --> 00:10:50,949 by location which would be a little bit 215 00:10:55,409 --> 00:10:53,169 more akin to sort of an astral 216 00:10:57,119 --> 00:10:55,419 projection but not quite it's it's 217 00:11:00,269 --> 00:10:57,129 getting towards that but it's not quite 218 00:11:02,909 --> 00:11:00,279 there because you have you know you're 219 00:11:05,939 --> 00:11:02,919 full aware fully aware of your body and 220 00:11:11,759 --> 00:11:05,949 writing things down and at the same time 221 00:11:15,359 --> 00:11:11,769 you are in this scene having a visual 222 00:11:17,939 --> 00:11:15,369 slight little movie scene play out where 223 00:11:20,039 --> 00:11:17,949 you have limited movement and you you 224 00:11:22,529 --> 00:11:20,049 kind of flip into that scene and then 225 00:11:24,779 --> 00:11:22,539 you'll pop back into your body and write 226 00:11:26,489 --> 00:11:24,789 that stuff down but then you know the 227 00:11:28,039 --> 00:11:26,499 next the next stuff you get in the 228 00:11:30,509 --> 00:11:28,049 session after that will be you know 229 00:11:32,789 --> 00:11:30,519 subtle sensations maybe you'll hear 230 00:11:35,069 --> 00:11:32,799 something or smell something or or just 231 00:11:39,179 --> 00:11:35,079 sense textures or have a general 232 00:11:43,639 --> 00:11:39,189 knowingness so it's really a lot of it's 233 00:11:46,410 --> 00:11:43,649 your whole body mind complex that is 234 00:11:49,740 --> 00:11:46,420 reaching out it's sort of 235 00:11:53,220 --> 00:11:49,750 sealing the information yeah well III 236 00:11:56,670 --> 00:11:53,230 remember back in the I guess it was late 237 00:12:00,269 --> 00:11:56,680 60s or early 70s when I was involved in 238 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:00,279 the the music scene Jerry Garcia from 239 00:12:04,860 --> 00:12:02,050 the Grateful Dead that was involved in 240 00:12:07,430 --> 00:12:04,870 some well we remote viewing but I don't 241 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:07,440 think they called it that at Maimonides 242 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:11,370 Hospital in in Brooklyn where they had 243 00:12:17,750 --> 00:12:15,970 him in one room and somebody else in the 244 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:17,760 other and they were trying to pass 245 00:12:24,660 --> 00:12:21,850 information from one room to to the 246 00:12:27,900 --> 00:12:24,670 other and I think dr. Stanley a critter 247 00:12:30,300 --> 00:12:27,910 was involved in that he is still active 248 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:30,310 in the parapsychology today he's out in 249 00:12:35,100 --> 00:12:32,410 the the the west coast but you know I 250 00:12:37,290 --> 00:12:35,110 don't remember the exact results except 251 00:12:40,530 --> 00:12:37,300 that they said that I think that it was 252 00:12:42,750 --> 00:12:40,540 fairly successful so the Grateful Dead 253 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:42,760 was was into this but I I don't think 254 00:12:48,060 --> 00:12:45,610 the terminology was remote viewing in 255 00:12:50,189 --> 00:12:48,070 those days but how did you come across 256 00:12:51,389 --> 00:12:50,199 this I mean you didn't just wake up one 257 00:12:53,939 --> 00:12:51,399 morning and say hey I want to be a 258 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:53,949 remote viewer I wouldn't think yeah I 259 00:13:01,920 --> 00:12:54,370 know 260 00:13:06,420 --> 00:13:01,930 the television show Nightline and it was 261 00:13:09,329 --> 00:13:06,430 the first outing of the remote viewing 262 00:13:11,250 --> 00:13:09,339 program the Stargate program so you know 263 00:13:14,069 --> 00:13:11,260 I'm watching this and and and I hear the 264 00:13:16,620 --> 00:13:14,079 word psychic spy and you know it's like 265 00:13:19,740 --> 00:13:16,630 a ping-pong ball just bouncing around in 266 00:13:22,350 --> 00:13:19,750 my skull I was like psychic spy psychic 267 00:13:25,530 --> 00:13:22,360 spy and then they said technology right 268 00:13:27,540 --> 00:13:25,540 so when you say technology and you say 269 00:13:30,420 --> 00:13:27,550 psychic spy you put those two things 270 00:13:34,860 --> 00:13:30,430 together I became obsessed with it right 271 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:34,870 so what happened was I had never thought 272 00:13:38,939 --> 00:13:36,610 of myself as being psychic in any way 273 00:13:40,650 --> 00:13:38,949 but you know I thought well heck this is 274 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:40,660 something I've got to figure out because 275 00:13:45,780 --> 00:13:42,610 it sounds fascinating you know I had a 276 00:13:48,660 --> 00:13:45,790 really strange life up to then I you 277 00:13:51,629 --> 00:13:48,670 know lived in a Zen Center a lot of lot 278 00:13:53,639 --> 00:13:51,639 of meditation practice had you know what 279 00:13:56,069 --> 00:13:53,649 I came to come to find out later were 280 00:13:57,809 --> 00:13:56,079 the typical abduction type experiences 281 00:14:00,100 --> 00:13:57,819 when I was a child so you know maybe 282 00:14:05,650 --> 00:14:00,110 there was a subconscious path already 283 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:05,660 forged but I basically taught myself I 284 00:14:09,639 --> 00:14:07,490 cobbled together how to do it because 285 00:14:13,060 --> 00:14:09,649 you know back in around 95 there was not 286 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:13,070 a lot online right you know there were 287 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:14,810 some people that I connected with that 288 00:14:18,639 --> 00:14:16,490 that knew about it I think Edie Dame's 289 00:14:20,710 --> 00:14:18,649 was already teaching it so people were 290 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:20,720 letting out little instances of out of 291 00:14:24,540 --> 00:14:22,730 how to do it you know the ideogram 292 00:14:27,460 --> 00:14:24,550 technique and stuff like that so I 293 00:14:30,100 --> 00:14:27,470 trained myself at first and then I got 294 00:14:33,550 --> 00:14:30,110 formal training a couple years after 295 00:14:36,069 --> 00:14:33,560 that after I got formal training it I 296 00:14:37,870 --> 00:14:36,079 found out yeah what exactly and what 297 00:14:39,970 --> 00:14:37,880 exactly is formal training what does 298 00:14:43,290 --> 00:14:39,980 that mean formal training is when 299 00:14:46,030 --> 00:14:43,300 somebody trained in the methodology of 300 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:46,040 controlled remote viewing you know 301 00:14:49,780 --> 00:14:47,810 basically how you put this stuff on 302 00:14:52,500 --> 00:14:49,790 paper and the whole structure that they 303 00:14:57,069 --> 00:14:52,510 used that the military had developed 304 00:15:00,130 --> 00:14:57,079 that is considered formal training so 305 00:15:02,380 --> 00:15:00,140 you know I went through actually a 306 00:15:06,189 --> 00:15:02,390 couple of different classes some long 307 00:15:09,519 --> 00:15:06,199 ones even a two-week class and my 308 00:15:13,630 --> 00:15:09,529 background was in fine art and I was 309 00:15:16,060 --> 00:15:13,640 really a painter and in my training in 310 00:15:18,579 --> 00:15:16,070 fine art you know I was taught to 311 00:15:20,139 --> 00:15:18,589 describe how light falls on a surface 312 00:15:23,620 --> 00:15:20,149 you know and I've had a very basic level 313 00:15:25,660 --> 00:15:23,630 and what that translated to and remote 314 00:15:27,939 --> 00:15:25,670 viewing as being a very physical remote 315 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:27,949 viewer because I come to find out that 316 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:30,050 not a lot of people can actually 317 00:15:34,060 --> 00:15:31,850 represent things in a very physical way 318 00:15:36,130 --> 00:15:34,070 they describe their world and what 319 00:15:37,660 --> 00:15:36,140 they're viewing through concepts and 320 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:37,670 metaphors and simile 321 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:40,490 so there's value in a person who 322 00:15:45,939 --> 00:15:42,050 describes things in a very physical way 323 00:15:49,810 --> 00:15:45,949 right so because of that I got pulled 324 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:49,820 into a think tank fairly fast funded 325 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:51,410 think tank and I was a professional 326 00:15:58,180 --> 00:15:54,370 remote viewer and then later went on to 327 00:16:02,139 --> 00:15:58,190 run the think tank in in with another 328 00:16:04,090 --> 00:16:02,149 person as the director of operations so 329 00:16:06,819 --> 00:16:04,100 that's how I got you know pulled into it 330 00:16:10,180 --> 00:16:06,829 now now was this like it s Ori or 331 00:16:12,790 --> 00:16:10,190 somewhere no this was a company called 332 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:12,800 transdimensional systems and this was 333 00:16:17,330 --> 00:16:14,010 based out of Southern Cal 334 00:16:19,940 --> 00:16:17,340 or Nia we had so you know think about 335 00:16:23,510 --> 00:16:19,950 this time remote viewing is Declassified 336 00:16:25,940 --> 00:16:23,520 there was an article that came out in 337 00:16:29,570 --> 00:16:25,950 major newspapers that stated Sony 338 00:16:32,300 --> 00:16:29,580 Entertainment was using remote viewers - 339 00:16:34,100 --> 00:16:32,310 well remote view future technology so 340 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:34,110 they can patent it write whatever they 341 00:16:40,940 --> 00:16:38,370 can do so this got every CEO just you 342 00:16:43,070 --> 00:16:40,950 know hot hot in the head about remote 343 00:16:45,710 --> 00:16:43,080 viewing and because we were one of the 344 00:16:47,870 --> 00:16:45,720 few think tanks functioning think tanks 345 00:16:50,450 --> 00:16:47,880 out there with a group of professional 346 00:16:53,300 --> 00:16:50,460 viewers we were you know walking through 347 00:16:54,740 --> 00:16:53,310 the back door of some high-level 348 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:54,750 corporations talking to high-level 349 00:17:00,310 --> 00:16:58,050 people in order to help them with the 350 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:00,320 same issue Sony was trying to figure out 351 00:17:06,620 --> 00:17:04,250 we also because of that you had 352 00:17:09,020 --> 00:17:06,630 intelligence agencies that were 353 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:09,030 interested in how civilians were 354 00:17:13,610 --> 00:17:11,490 developing remote viewing and we would 355 00:17:15,770 --> 00:17:13,620 get tapped on by them so we had handlers 356 00:17:17,900 --> 00:17:15,780 and various agencies that you know 357 00:17:20,270 --> 00:17:17,910 wanted things known typically on the 358 00:17:22,730 --> 00:17:20,280 strange side and then we also worked 359 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:22,740 with the FBI on counter terror after 360 00:17:30,500 --> 00:17:27,570 9/11 now what what were you asked to do 361 00:17:32,540 --> 00:17:30,510 or what were you looking to do with the 362 00:17:35,210 --> 00:17:32,550 remote viewing I mean any specifics on 363 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:35,220 this well you know for for you know 364 00:17:43,970 --> 00:17:38,490 corporations for one thing it it spanned 365 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:43,980 from technology to financial even they 366 00:17:48,980 --> 00:17:46,290 were a spy corporate spying 367 00:17:51,740 --> 00:17:48,990 we never did corporate espionage no that 368 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:51,750 was one thing that we wouldn't that we 369 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:54,210 had some you know ethics ethical 370 00:18:02,390 --> 00:17:57,450 standards ah yeah you know but we would 371 00:18:04,190 --> 00:18:02,400 look at future sort of future with the 372 00:18:07,610 --> 00:18:04,200 way the stock market's gonna go or if 373 00:18:08,900 --> 00:18:07,620 two companies were gonna merge right so 374 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:08,910 we would look at future events like that 375 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:11,730 and advise financial companies on that 376 00:18:17,210 --> 00:18:14,730 kind of stuff we I mean we we worked 377 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:17,220 with a company in fact I can even say 378 00:18:21,050 --> 00:18:19,650 this they had given permission for me to 379 00:18:24,350 --> 00:18:21,060 talk about a company named catalyst 380 00:18:27,539 --> 00:18:24,360 entertainment who they were a an 381 00:18:29,010 --> 00:18:27,549 amusement-park company and they 382 00:18:31,020 --> 00:18:29,020 we're building an amusement park I 383 00:18:34,289 --> 00:18:31,030 actually was about amusement park based 384 00:18:35,610 --> 00:18:34,299 on UFOs in China su Chou China so they 385 00:18:38,549 --> 00:18:35,620 were an American company they had a 386 00:18:40,740 --> 00:18:38,559 Chinese businessman helped them run 387 00:18:42,060 --> 00:18:40,750 through all of the hoops that they got 388 00:18:44,159 --> 00:18:42,070 to run through and China to build these 389 00:18:46,460 --> 00:18:44,169 things and they dumped about twenty 390 00:18:48,780 --> 00:18:46,470 million dollars into building this and 391 00:18:51,210 --> 00:18:48,790 Chinese businessman took off with 392 00:18:53,039 --> 00:18:51,220 fourteen million of their dollars so 393 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:53,049 they took him to court in the US they 394 00:18:58,049 --> 00:18:56,290 won they had private detectives the FBI 395 00:19:00,000 --> 00:18:58,059 had even gotten involved trying to find 396 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:00,010 this guy they couldn't find him so you 397 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:02,410 know his last resort which it seems that 398 00:19:10,049 --> 00:19:07,890 we always are they contacted us so we 399 00:19:13,530 --> 00:19:10,059 actually found him we tracked him down 400 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:13,540 found him in Australia and led the 401 00:19:18,419 --> 00:19:15,250 investigators to him and brought him to 402 00:19:20,460 --> 00:19:18,429 the negotiate ago she ating table so I 403 00:19:24,030 --> 00:19:20,470 mean that's a that's an instance of it 404 00:19:27,330 --> 00:19:24,040 really working out well you know we also 405 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:27,340 worked with so on these and you know on 406 00:19:32,990 --> 00:19:29,650 the intelligence side you know nobody 407 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:33,000 wants a paper trail so we were often 408 00:19:39,750 --> 00:19:36,850 shuttled through the back door and no 409 00:19:42,450 --> 00:19:39,760 papers no documentation in fact they 410 00:19:44,460 --> 00:19:42,460 wouldn't even ask us or they wouldn't 411 00:19:46,530 --> 00:19:44,470 tell us directly what they wanted to 412 00:19:49,049 --> 00:19:46,540 know they would just say well you know 413 00:19:50,220 --> 00:19:49,059 we have a problem with some scientists 414 00:19:52,980 --> 00:19:50,230 and we think they're doing something 415 00:19:56,580 --> 00:19:52,990 that you know might not turn out so well 416 00:20:00,000 --> 00:19:56,590 so can you remote view that problem and 417 00:20:02,580 --> 00:20:00,010 let us know how it goes so you know we'd 418 00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:02,590 have to figure out how to get data on 419 00:20:07,260 --> 00:20:04,480 that kind of stuff and report back to 420 00:20:11,070 --> 00:20:07,270 them kind of interesting situations 421 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:11,080 there now with the FBI it was all future 422 00:20:17,909 --> 00:20:14,290 terrorist attacks on US soil that we 423 00:20:21,049 --> 00:20:17,919 were looking at and did you see that a 424 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:21,059 future terrorist attack well back then 425 00:20:28,890 --> 00:20:25,570 you know just after 9/11 it was you know 426 00:20:31,470 --> 00:20:28,900 the way we got pulled in was the when 427 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:31,480 the twin towers had collapsed they were 428 00:20:36,659 --> 00:20:34,330 concerned initially about the retaining 429 00:20:40,830 --> 00:20:36,669 wall that if it were breached in that 430 00:20:44,930 --> 00:20:40,840 deep basement it could potentially 431 00:20:47,220 --> 00:20:44,940 in the river into the lower Manhattan 432 00:20:49,139 --> 00:20:47,230 completely flood out lower Manhattan so 433 00:20:51,269 --> 00:20:49,149 they couldn't get anyone down there and 434 00:20:53,999 --> 00:20:51,279 this was I think a day or two after they 435 00:20:57,509 --> 00:20:54,009 fell they asked us if we'd remote-view 436 00:21:00,810 --> 00:20:57,519 the integrity of the structure and you 437 00:21:03,690 --> 00:21:00,820 know we came back and it looked fine so 438 00:21:06,180 --> 00:21:03,700 we gave him our data we told him looked 439 00:21:09,210 --> 00:21:06,190 great and doesn't look breached 440 00:21:10,619 --> 00:21:09,220 compromised in any way and about a week 441 00:21:12,090 --> 00:21:10,629 or two later they were able to get 442 00:21:17,159 --> 00:21:12,100 people down there and confirm our data 443 00:21:18,869 --> 00:21:17,169 so that led us into well they asked 444 00:21:21,629 --> 00:21:18,879 specifically if we wanted to hunt for 445 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:21,639 bin Laden right when we said no thanks 446 00:21:28,019 --> 00:21:25,330 we didn't want to do that mainly one you 447 00:21:29,489 --> 00:21:28,029 know I mean I don't know you know 448 00:21:31,109 --> 00:21:29,499 there's a lot of conspiracy stories 449 00:21:34,430 --> 00:21:31,119 around it but I won't go into that 450 00:21:37,769 --> 00:21:34,440 you know we initially didn't want to 451 00:21:41,190 --> 00:21:37,779 have errant bombs dropped on anybody if 452 00:21:44,190 --> 00:21:41,200 you know our data helped them lead you 453 00:21:46,409 --> 00:21:44,200 know help them get to a location we 454 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:46,419 didn't want that to be on our heads 455 00:21:53,340 --> 00:21:51,129 killing anybody that was innocent so we 456 00:21:54,299 --> 00:21:53,350 declined that and we said but we would 457 00:21:57,570 --> 00:21:54,309 work 458 00:22:01,489 --> 00:21:57,580 counter-terror on US soil on future 459 00:22:06,060 --> 00:22:01,499 terrorist attacks you know so that was 460 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:06,070 did the FBI take this seriously they 461 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:09,970 took it seriously enough to actually was 462 00:22:16,139 --> 00:22:13,690 so in is see I can't remember either 463 00:22:19,529 --> 00:22:16,149 Times Square or Madison Square Garden 464 00:22:26,039 --> 00:22:19,539 subway there what we we saw scenario 465 00:22:30,029 --> 00:22:26,049 where biological and/or chemical gases 466 00:22:34,619 --> 00:22:30,039 would be dropped through a vent so the 467 00:22:36,659 --> 00:22:34,629 FBI had us go after that vent completely 468 00:22:40,590 --> 00:22:36,669 describe it find out exactly where it 469 00:22:44,730 --> 00:22:40,600 was and they actually boarded that vent 470 00:22:47,369 --> 00:22:44,740 up so so we do know that they acted on 471 00:22:49,980 --> 00:22:47,379 some of our data I have no idea I mean 472 00:22:51,450 --> 00:22:49,990 you know I'm guessing that they back it 473 00:22:53,009 --> 00:22:51,460 up with other intelligence you know we 474 00:22:54,700 --> 00:22:53,019 don't sit down and have tea time with 475 00:22:56,950 --> 00:22:54,710 them so they don't tell us much 476 00:22:59,769 --> 00:22:56,960 of anything yeah yeah uh not too much 477 00:23:02,340 --> 00:22:59,779 feedback from them right exactly yeah 478 00:23:05,110 --> 00:23:02,350 yeah I got you to keeping it under the 479 00:23:06,310 --> 00:23:05,120 bulletproof vest so to speak yeah 480 00:23:09,010 --> 00:23:06,320 exactly 481 00:23:10,510 --> 00:23:09,020 so you know that you know that was uh it 482 00:23:12,430 --> 00:23:10,520 was good to know that at least they 483 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:12,440 acted on some of it and some of it was 484 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:14,330 you know accurate otherwise we'd never 485 00:23:18,549 --> 00:23:16,090 we'd never know 486 00:23:21,669 --> 00:23:18,559 well what would you say your accuracy 487 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:21,679 rate is you know that really depends 488 00:23:27,279 --> 00:23:25,610 can't tell yeah I mean with with a lot 489 00:23:29,649 --> 00:23:27,289 of this stuff that we do and we give it 490 00:23:32,110 --> 00:23:29,659 to clients and then we basically lose 491 00:23:37,690 --> 00:23:32,120 contact with them or you know it's it's 492 00:23:40,659 --> 00:23:37,700 classified we have no way to know but 493 00:23:43,090 --> 00:23:40,669 when we do work with corporations it's 494 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:43,100 usually you know probably up in the 80 495 00:23:48,820 --> 00:23:47,090 75 80 percentile all right I need to 496 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:48,830 interrupt you because we have to go to 497 00:23:51,850 --> 00:23:50,570 our bottom of the hour break so when we 498 00:24:01,860 --> 00:23:51,860 come back we will continue our show 499 00:24:08,590 --> 00:24:06,010 now back to exploring the bazaars with 500 00:24:11,890 --> 00:24:08,600 two of the most electrifying researchers 501 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:11,900 in the Paranoid your hosts Timothy Becky 502 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:17,090 Lee panting Swift's we welcome back to 503 00:24:21,910 --> 00:24:18,970 exploring the bazaar I'm Tim Schwarz 504 00:24:26,020 --> 00:24:21,920 tonight we're talking about remote 505 00:24:31,630 --> 00:24:26,030 viewing with John Franco and John I 506 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:31,640 wanted to ask you I'd seen a video where 507 00:24:36,850 --> 00:24:33,290 you were being interviewed and I found 508 00:24:41,110 --> 00:24:36,860 this very interesting where you were 509 00:24:47,070 --> 00:24:41,120 talking about some of your corporate 510 00:24:50,530 --> 00:24:47,080 clients and you were saying that after 511 00:24:54,870 --> 00:24:50,540 you went through the business that they 512 00:24:56,049 --> 00:24:54,880 had originally hired you for that 513 00:24:58,690 --> 00:24:56,059 afterwards 514 00:25:01,720 --> 00:24:58,700 all they wanted to talk about was 515 00:25:02,799 --> 00:25:01,730 another subject and do you know what I'm 516 00:25:04,750 --> 00:25:02,809 talking you know what I'm referring to 517 00:25:07,090 --> 00:25:04,760 here okay well I won't say any more I'll 518 00:25:08,650 --> 00:25:07,100 let you go into it then I just found 519 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:08,660 that I just found that interesting 520 00:25:14,260 --> 00:25:11,210 because you know that's it's one of 521 00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:14,270 those subjects that a lot of people are 522 00:25:19,570 --> 00:25:16,960 interested in but they're not going to 523 00:25:22,540 --> 00:25:19,580 reveal it on the surface or they are 524 00:25:24,340 --> 00:25:22,550 wait till the doors are their doors are 525 00:25:26,860 --> 00:25:24,350 closing the lights are turned out yeah 526 00:25:29,770 --> 00:25:26,870 it's funny I mean well I mean first off 527 00:25:31,570 --> 00:25:29,780 we were always this backdoor deal and we 528 00:25:34,150 --> 00:25:31,580 would typically work with CEOs because 529 00:25:35,770 --> 00:25:34,160 they didn't want anyone else in the 530 00:25:38,919 --> 00:25:35,780 company to know they were working with 531 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:38,929 us so they felt safe from that 532 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:42,650 standpoint and it was basically you know 533 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:45,530 we'd do a bunch of work for them we'd 534 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:48,290 meet up and go through the data and 535 00:25:53,890 --> 00:25:50,690 explain our recommendations and whatnot 536 00:25:57,010 --> 00:25:53,900 and then go out to dinner and it was 537 00:25:57,700 --> 00:25:57,020 always always always tell me about 538 00:26:00,640 --> 00:25:57,710 aliens 539 00:26:02,500 --> 00:26:00,650 tell me about UFOs are there are there 540 00:26:04,299 --> 00:26:02,510 really things on Mars and the moon 541 00:26:06,610 --> 00:26:04,309 you know how long have they been here 542 00:26:09,250 --> 00:26:06,620 you know what are they doing here how 543 00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:09,260 many of them are there so that's what it 544 00:26:11,710 --> 00:26:10,370 wasn't you know we'd have these 545 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:11,720 conversations that would 546 00:26:17,430 --> 00:26:14,690 way into the night with nearly every 547 00:26:20,549 --> 00:26:17,440 single client you know uh even for days 548 00:26:24,039 --> 00:26:20,559 let's meet up so we can talk about UFOs 549 00:26:27,759 --> 00:26:24,049 so yeah that and you know that that is 550 00:26:29,470 --> 00:26:27,769 really fascinating because I think 551 00:26:30,730 --> 00:26:29,480 that's where most people are with it 552 00:26:32,230 --> 00:26:30,740 they want to know about it see when 553 00:26:33,940 --> 00:26:32,240 you're dealing with somebody you're 554 00:26:36,159 --> 00:26:33,950 giving a remote viewing data and it 555 00:26:38,769 --> 00:26:36,169 turns out to be true for a business for 556 00:26:41,289 --> 00:26:38,779 their business they're gonna believe you 557 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:41,299 when you talk about aliens and UFOs and 558 00:26:48,820 --> 00:26:44,570 the projects you do on those and so what 559 00:26:51,850 --> 00:26:48,830 what I do now is I use that methodology 560 00:26:54,129 --> 00:26:51,860 of working like with corporations or 561 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:54,139 intelligence we use multiple remote 562 00:26:59,409 --> 00:26:55,970 viewers and never a single remote viewer 563 00:27:01,690 --> 00:26:59,419 on any project and we look at areas of 564 00:27:04,779 --> 00:27:01,700 high strangeness we look at UFO 565 00:27:08,590 --> 00:27:04,789 incidents we look at Mars we look at the 566 00:27:12,369 --> 00:27:08,600 moon and we build projects sometimes do 567 00:27:14,590 --> 00:27:12,379 videos and do expeditions to these 568 00:27:18,789 --> 00:27:14,600 locations where strange things are 569 00:27:20,470 --> 00:27:18,799 happening to further get more 570 00:27:24,009 --> 00:27:20,480 understanding deeper understanding more 571 00:27:26,590 --> 00:27:24,019 data in the form of film if we can when 572 00:27:28,690 --> 00:27:26,600 we do this so yeah you know it's really 573 00:27:31,419 --> 00:27:28,700 I think what most people want to know 574 00:27:33,070 --> 00:27:31,429 about when you get right down to it now 575 00:27:35,499 --> 00:27:33,080 have you had anybody approached you 576 00:27:37,810 --> 00:27:35,509 whether it be you know corporations or 577 00:27:42,190 --> 00:27:37,820 even government agencies and say you 578 00:27:44,769 --> 00:27:42,200 know can you Remote View me some kind of 579 00:27:47,619 --> 00:27:44,779 technology that that we can use that you 580 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:47,629 know alien technology or whatever that 581 00:27:53,049 --> 00:27:50,330 we could use make ourselves rich or you 582 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:53,059 know use for military purposes yeah 583 00:27:59,680 --> 00:27:55,330 absolutely 584 00:28:03,009 --> 00:27:59,690 so one particular person wanted us to 585 00:28:07,389 --> 00:28:03,019 sub the the grey alien the typical grey 586 00:28:10,869 --> 00:28:07,399 with the big eyes so it's it was thought 587 00:28:14,950 --> 00:28:10,879 that there's an eye skin or a skin over 588 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:14,960 their eye that is night vision basically 589 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:17,210 and when that when that's removed they 590 00:28:24,669 --> 00:28:20,450 have you know more or less pupils like 591 00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:24,679 humans would obviously larger but so 592 00:28:30,549 --> 00:28:26,809 that was a project that we worked on 593 00:28:37,570 --> 00:28:30,559 once for a person who owns a I glass 594 00:28:42,759 --> 00:28:37,580 company so that he could create those so 595 00:28:46,029 --> 00:28:42,769 that's one example we have worked with 596 00:28:48,009 --> 00:28:46,039 people that are more on the science 597 00:28:50,649 --> 00:28:48,019 development side you know when you when 598 00:28:53,830 --> 00:28:50,659 you think of projects like what DARPA 599 00:28:56,619 --> 00:28:53,840 does that have asked us to you know help 600 00:29:01,330 --> 00:28:56,629 them and different types of technologies 601 00:29:06,999 --> 00:29:01,340 that are from craft basically alien 602 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:07,009 craft very fine-tuning of things which 603 00:29:12,970 --> 00:29:10,730 is bizarre when you get down to it and 604 00:29:15,700 --> 00:29:12,980 you have somebody in a government agency 605 00:29:17,379 --> 00:29:15,710 that's wanting this kind of information 606 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:17,389 from civilians 607 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:19,490 but you know then again there's no paper 608 00:29:25,119 --> 00:29:23,450 trail on it and they you know we can it 609 00:29:29,259 --> 00:29:25,129 won't lead back anywhere which is you 610 00:29:34,119 --> 00:29:29,269 know the other half of this we have also 611 00:29:38,590 --> 00:29:34,129 looked at concerns with Antarctica at 612 00:29:41,619 --> 00:29:38,600 the request of an agency and something 613 00:29:45,549 --> 00:29:41,629 that potentially could go wrong down 614 00:29:49,659 --> 00:29:45,559 there that could create a situation 615 00:29:53,759 --> 00:29:49,669 where our eye on a sphere has deep deep 616 00:29:56,529 --> 00:29:53,769 problems and this has to do with 617 00:30:00,639 --> 00:29:56,539 technologies that are being worked on in 618 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:00,649 secret down in that area that are 619 00:30:09,430 --> 00:30:06,610 basically out of control we also have an 620 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:09,440 experiment that was going on with the 621 00:30:18,369 --> 00:30:14,330 super collider and something happened in 622 00:30:19,389 --> 00:30:18,379 this experiment where dimensions you 623 00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:19,399 know and they did this because they 624 00:30:24,460 --> 00:30:21,049 could do it not because they should do 625 00:30:27,190 --> 00:30:24,470 it it was a very big concern where 626 00:30:30,009 --> 00:30:27,200 dimensions our dimension had kind of 627 00:30:34,330 --> 00:30:30,019 squeezed into another one or another 628 00:30:37,450 --> 00:30:34,340 timeline a dimensional timeline and was 629 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:37,460 causing issues so I mean this is stuff 630 00:30:43,150 --> 00:30:38,450 that's that's 631 00:30:46,990 --> 00:30:43,160 you know way outside of the realm of 632 00:30:48,940 --> 00:30:47,000 what most people would even think our 633 00:30:50,410 --> 00:30:48,950 government would be getting involved in 634 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:50,420 I mean we're not we're actually talking 635 00:30:55,030 --> 00:30:51,650 government we're talking more on the 636 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:55,040 side of dart projects sure right yeah 637 00:31:00,280 --> 00:30:57,770 well okay now so I could imagine then 638 00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:00,290 that the the people that you have 639 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:02,510 working for you that that are doing 640 00:31:10,150 --> 00:31:07,450 these you know remote viewings probably 641 00:31:11,740 --> 00:31:10,160 considering okay say like the what you 642 00:31:16,090 --> 00:31:11,750 were talking about the Large Hadron 643 00:31:17,770 --> 00:31:16,100 Collider them trying to come up with a 644 00:31:19,180 --> 00:31:17,780 way to describe what they're seeing 645 00:31:24,820 --> 00:31:19,190 because I know that they go into this 646 00:31:28,050 --> 00:31:24,830 cold and so I mean when when they're 647 00:31:32,230 --> 00:31:28,060 trying to describe these kinds of really 648 00:31:34,180 --> 00:31:32,240 very esoteric and and probably for a lot 649 00:31:39,070 --> 00:31:34,190 of them just completely outside of their 650 00:31:42,430 --> 00:31:39,080 their understanding how would they go 651 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:42,440 about describing what they are seeing 652 00:31:46,750 --> 00:31:45,290 yeah that's see the way that we work 653 00:31:49,630 --> 00:31:46,760 remote viewing was different than the 654 00:31:51,610 --> 00:31:49,640 military worked it so we allowed remote 655 00:31:53,830 --> 00:31:51,620 viewers in the military what they did 656 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:53,840 was they they pushed viewers to describe 657 00:31:57,070 --> 00:31:56,090 very physically and so that really 658 00:31:59,020 --> 00:31:57,080 leaves them in the realm of 659 00:32:00,550 --> 00:31:59,030 three-dimensional physical reality and 660 00:32:02,890 --> 00:32:00,560 explaining that stuff and they know if 661 00:32:04,750 --> 00:32:02,900 they don't have vocabulary for it then 662 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:04,760 it's just it's not gonna work very well 663 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:08,210 so with our viewers what we did was we 664 00:32:13,270 --> 00:32:11,170 allowed them to describe things 665 00:32:16,060 --> 00:32:13,280 metaphorically and conceptually and 666 00:32:17,830 --> 00:32:16,070 build it out that way when they are 667 00:32:18,940 --> 00:32:17,840 confronted with things they don't 668 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:18,950 understand 669 00:32:23,140 --> 00:32:20,930 because when you're in a session and 670 00:32:25,990 --> 00:32:23,150 you're getting things that are outside 671 00:32:27,790 --> 00:32:26,000 of your wheelhouse there you're gonna 672 00:32:29,470 --> 00:32:27,800 feel it you're gonna know it so at that 673 00:32:31,780 --> 00:32:29,480 point what the viewers would do would 674 00:32:35,500 --> 00:32:31,790 would begin to speak of it in metaphor 675 00:32:38,770 --> 00:32:35,510 and concepts and when we when we did 676 00:32:41,550 --> 00:32:38,780 that we were able to actually build even 677 00:32:46,330 --> 00:32:41,560 more accurate pictures of things 678 00:32:50,740 --> 00:32:46,340 especially in the unknown realm because 679 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:50,750 it allows for this looser and broader 680 00:32:55,870 --> 00:32:51,890 way to explain 681 00:32:59,700 --> 00:32:55,880 things so we drifted off from this you 682 00:33:04,750 --> 00:32:59,710 know super rigid stylistic military 683 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:04,760 method and began to work the methodology 684 00:33:08,620 --> 00:33:06,290 in a different way and and this is 685 00:33:12,370 --> 00:33:08,630 actually the reason why we were 686 00:33:15,730 --> 00:33:12,380 approached so much was because we 687 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:15,740 shifted it like that whereas before they 688 00:33:19,450 --> 00:33:17,690 were just stuck in the physical zone you 689 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:19,460 have to think these guys were in the 690 00:33:25,420 --> 00:33:22,250 military we're mostly viewing compounds 691 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:25,430 and structures and so it made sense but 692 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:27,890 now you know we're off in this world in 693 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:29,930 the civilian world where everybody wants 694 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:30,410 to know 695 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:32,210 mysteries these mysteries that have been 696 00:33:36,550 --> 00:33:34,250 plaguing us for years you know and and 697 00:33:40,060 --> 00:33:36,560 and route them out so you know you 698 00:33:42,820 --> 00:33:40,070 really have to take a different tact one 699 00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:42,830 of the videos that you have on your 700 00:33:49,420 --> 00:33:46,480 website which for our audience is is on 701 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:49,430 exploring the bazaars website so you can 702 00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:54,650 go there and and visit John's site you 703 00:34:01,780 --> 00:33:58,130 went into checking out what was called 704 00:34:03,570 --> 00:34:01,790 the the skinny Bob video now for 705 00:34:07,270 --> 00:34:03,580 audience who aren't familiar with that 706 00:34:10,330 --> 00:34:07,280 there was I think it was several videos 707 00:34:14,590 --> 00:34:10,340 that came out it's it's been a few years 708 00:34:15,940 --> 00:34:14,600 now that Steven Lee showed and I think 709 00:34:19,710 --> 00:34:15,950 was supposed to have been taken like in 710 00:34:22,570 --> 00:34:19,720 in Russia the typical you know like a 711 00:34:26,919 --> 00:34:22,580 gray alien creatures there was like a 712 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:26,929 brief shot of a UFO and and then several 713 00:34:32,500 --> 00:34:30,130 like panning up and down shots of this 714 00:34:35,380 --> 00:34:32,510 alien that was just referred to as 715 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:35,390 skinny Bob most people think it's a hoax 716 00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:37,370 it looks like you know like bad CGI 717 00:34:41,380 --> 00:34:39,649 and I think that's what possibly you 718 00:34:45,669 --> 00:34:41,390 were thinking about when you went in to 719 00:34:49,030 --> 00:34:45,679 looking at it but the results that your 720 00:34:51,190 --> 00:34:49,040 team got were rather surprising yeah 721 00:34:54,419 --> 00:34:51,200 yeah I know it's interesting I mean I 722 00:34:58,500 --> 00:34:54,429 thought it was probably CGI or fake 723 00:35:02,460 --> 00:34:58,510 something before it was we viewed it 724 00:35:05,510 --> 00:35:02,470 yeah I mean all the data came back and 725 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:05,520 it was a real being real 726 00:35:11,830 --> 00:35:08,930 creature they were describing a grey 727 00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:11,840 alien they were describing it you know 728 00:35:19,540 --> 00:35:16,730 sort of frog like and strange suffering 729 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:19,550 as it was you know 730 00:35:27,590 --> 00:35:24,410 yeah kept captive it was kept in this um 731 00:35:29,630 --> 00:35:27,600 or had this sort of like rubber pool 732 00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:29,640 that was that it was in with liquid in 733 00:35:33,770 --> 00:35:32,640 it and they it I guess it was it could 734 00:35:36,290 --> 00:35:33,780 have been nutrients or it could have 735 00:35:41,330 --> 00:35:36,300 been this just I don't know somewhat 736 00:35:43,820 --> 00:35:41,340 safe place for it to be and one thing 737 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:43,830 that was really interesting was that as 738 00:35:51,020 --> 00:35:47,610 we were viewing it so you know the first 739 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:51,030 viewers in I'd say the first three ish 740 00:35:55,730 --> 00:35:54,450 times into remote-view skinny Bob the 741 00:35:58,910 --> 00:35:55,740 viewers do something called a 742 00:36:02,720 --> 00:35:58,920 consciousness map and that basically is 743 00:36:05,210 --> 00:36:02,730 something that we do to get to know the 744 00:36:09,260 --> 00:36:05,220 mind of the subject a little better so 745 00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:09,270 this doesn't normally happen but this 746 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:11,730 subject skinny bob was basically telling 747 00:36:14,750 --> 00:36:13,170 the remote viewers and they're writing 748 00:36:16,850 --> 00:36:14,760 this down as they're receiving the 749 00:36:18,770 --> 00:36:16,860 information okay you're starting to 750 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:18,780 bother me it's it's time for you to go 751 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:20,610 leave me alone why do you keep bugging 752 00:36:26,990 --> 00:36:23,370 me so this started to ramp up it started 753 00:36:28,430 --> 00:36:27,000 to happen and then we couldn't view him 754 00:36:29,810 --> 00:36:28,440 anymore he blocked it 755 00:36:32,330 --> 00:36:29,820 you know the viewers would get sent to 756 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:32,340 this you know a boat floating on a lake 757 00:36:36,350 --> 00:36:35,130 scene or something like that and that 758 00:36:38,030 --> 00:36:36,360 was it it was done couldn't view him 759 00:36:40,540 --> 00:36:38,040 anymore and you know this is the other 760 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:40,550 interesting thing too is that I knew 761 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:42,690 because of that that we were the first 762 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:44,970 remote viewers in to view this 763 00:36:50,330 --> 00:36:49,050 particular case because if other viewers 764 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:50,340 had already viewed it we would have been 765 00:36:54,890 --> 00:36:52,290 kicked out right at the beginning and 766 00:36:57,890 --> 00:36:54,900 you know this happens this happens when 767 00:37:01,370 --> 00:36:57,900 you Remote View beings that have this 768 00:37:04,340 --> 00:37:01,380 broader consciousness where they can you 769 00:37:06,020 --> 00:37:04,350 know block you or they can they can come 770 00:37:08,050 --> 00:37:06,030 visit you you poke them they'll poke you 771 00:37:11,180 --> 00:37:08,060 back you know 772 00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:11,190 well now it's it's funny that you should 773 00:37:16,910 --> 00:37:14,250 say that because I remember that the 774 00:37:18,410 --> 00:37:16,920 late Ingo Swann wrote about it 775 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:18,420 experience that he had when he 776 00:37:25,130 --> 00:37:21,450 had been tasked to check out the far 777 00:37:29,420 --> 00:37:25,140 side of the moon and he said that that 778 00:37:35,900 --> 00:37:29,430 he saw alien beans working there and 779 00:37:39,020 --> 00:37:35,910 that they became aware of him of viewing 780 00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:39,030 them and it startled him and and 781 00:37:44,030 --> 00:37:41,250 frightened him somewhat and you know 782 00:37:49,579 --> 00:37:44,040 what I had pretty much the exact same 783 00:37:51,010 --> 00:37:49,589 experience I was tasked on a crater what 784 00:37:53,569 --> 00:37:51,020 does the craters date 785 00:37:55,339 --> 00:37:53,579 Aristarchus something like that I'm 786 00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:55,349 massacring the name I know it 787 00:37:59,539 --> 00:37:56,730 this one crater that has a particular 788 00:38:02,510 --> 00:37:59,549 blue glow to it there's some photographs 789 00:38:03,470 --> 00:38:02,520 with just glowing blue so I was blind 790 00:38:06,710 --> 00:38:03,480 you know 791 00:38:10,460 --> 00:38:06,720 tasked on this crater I literally had a 792 00:38:12,170 --> 00:38:10,470 bilocation experience and this happens 793 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:12,180 for whatever reason this happens to 794 00:38:15,740 --> 00:38:13,530 other remote viewers as well where 795 00:38:18,140 --> 00:38:15,750 remote viewers have more of a chance of 796 00:38:20,030 --> 00:38:18,150 a bilocation experience when they view 797 00:38:21,349 --> 00:38:20,040 things that are off planet could have 798 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:21,359 something to do with all the psychic 799 00:38:26,539 --> 00:38:23,490 energy here I don't know but so I had a 800 00:38:30,470 --> 00:38:26,549 bilocation experience when I viewed that 801 00:38:33,020 --> 00:38:30,480 I you know was at my desk remote viewing 802 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:33,030 but then I popped into the scene where 803 00:38:39,890 --> 00:38:35,490 in front of me was this it was this 804 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:39,900 large rocky wall and in the wall was 805 00:38:46,970 --> 00:38:42,930 this huge metal door it looked like an 806 00:38:48,890 --> 00:38:46,980 airlock door and I could see you know I 807 00:38:52,370 --> 00:38:48,900 had limited movement and I could see up 808 00:38:55,150 --> 00:38:52,380 the top of the crater I realized that I 809 00:38:59,180 --> 00:38:55,160 was not on the earth at that moment and 810 00:39:02,120 --> 00:38:59,190 I looked I moved my head and I looked 811 00:39:04,490 --> 00:39:02,130 away from the wall and this would be the 812 00:39:07,190 --> 00:39:04,500 crater wall towards the middle of it and 813 00:39:10,549 --> 00:39:07,200 there were these beings that look like 814 00:39:15,410 --> 00:39:10,559 they had skin like a caper man they were 815 00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:15,420 out in this crater moving stuff around 816 00:39:22,700 --> 00:39:18,510 doing stuff and when I looked at them 817 00:39:27,230 --> 00:39:22,710 they stopped and looked at me and I got 818 00:39:29,510 --> 00:39:27,240 this vibe like you're busted and I took 819 00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:29,520 I was out and I ended the session and 820 00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:32,250 I'm you know I just like turned on 821 00:39:40,070 --> 00:39:34,800 prices right or something and pretended 822 00:39:43,340 --> 00:39:40,080 I never even went there Wow yeah but I 823 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:43,350 mean you were talking about how they can 824 00:39:50,870 --> 00:39:47,130 follow you back and and remote view you 825 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:50,880 or bid where was that a concern yeah 826 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:53,490 absolutely was a concern absolutely I 827 00:39:59,990 --> 00:39:57,450 mean I at that point I had had another 828 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:00,000 experience before that where I was 829 00:40:07,670 --> 00:40:03,450 actually visited by somebody like 830 00:40:10,490 --> 00:40:07,680 literally physically they came I mean it 831 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:10,500 sounds absolutely insane but we had been 832 00:40:14,420 --> 00:40:11,970 working on a project we were working 833 00:40:17,660 --> 00:40:14,430 with Ruben Uriarte um 834 00:40:19,370 --> 00:40:17,670 MUFON director in California and Joyce 835 00:40:22,820 --> 00:40:19,380 Murphy that a TV show called Beyond 836 00:40:24,110 --> 00:40:22,830 Boundaries and we were they asked us if 837 00:40:25,580 --> 00:40:24,120 we would Remote View where they could 838 00:40:27,890 --> 00:40:25,590 film the chupacabra because they were 839 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:27,900 going to Puerto Rico and doing an 840 00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:30,090 episode out there and they also wanted 841 00:40:33,890 --> 00:40:31,920 this other thing remote viewed which 842 00:40:35,810 --> 00:40:33,900 were these lights that the locals were 843 00:40:38,660 --> 00:40:35,820 seeing in the sky around the IR SIBO 844 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:38,670 radio telescope so I was the first 845 00:40:43,460 --> 00:40:41,010 viewer in on that project where we were 846 00:40:44,810 --> 00:40:43,470 remote viewing the lights and I was 847 00:40:47,170 --> 00:40:44,820 blind to it so I didn't know what I was 848 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:47,180 viewing until I started viewing it and 849 00:40:52,190 --> 00:40:49,770 so these beings were coming down they 850 00:40:59,360 --> 00:40:52,200 were coming into the forest they were 851 00:41:01,010 --> 00:40:59,370 associated with this signal that Arecibo 852 00:41:03,020 --> 00:41:01,020 radio telescope we found out later was 853 00:41:05,270 --> 00:41:03,030 actually picking up and knew that it was 854 00:41:07,730 --> 00:41:05,280 intelligence so aside from that they 855 00:41:10,190 --> 00:41:07,740 were going into the jungle when I was 856 00:41:12,050 --> 00:41:10,200 viewing it they noticed me and I 857 00:41:13,070 --> 00:41:12,060 remember in that session I just kept 858 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:13,080 saying they're coming they're coming 859 00:41:18,350 --> 00:41:16,290 they're gonna visit me and it wasn't I 860 00:41:22,070 --> 00:41:18,360 don't know was it wasn't like a month 861 00:41:26,090 --> 00:41:22,080 later I was woken up in the middle of 862 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:26,100 the night by this hand pushing on my 863 00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:29,130 shoulder and I grabbed the hand and it 864 00:41:33,740 --> 00:41:31,110 pulled away from me it was slick and 865 00:41:37,970 --> 00:41:33,750 bumpy and as when I realized that this 866 00:41:39,980 --> 00:41:37,980 hand felt weird i sat up opened my eyes 867 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:39,990 and you know I'd say about five feet in 868 00:41:44,780 --> 00:41:42,210 front of me is this thing it's got this 869 00:41:45,860 --> 00:41:44,790 head that shaped like a football on its 870 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:45,870 side 871 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:48,090 got two little eyes on the outer edges 872 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:50,850 of the football and it's got all these 873 00:41:55,820 --> 00:41:53,370 bumps like if you'd call it a chin under 874 00:41:59,870 --> 00:41:55,830 its chin and then they had these just 875 00:42:02,870 --> 00:41:59,880 spindly limbs hanging down and I'd say 876 00:42:05,180 --> 00:42:02,880 it wasn't any more than three feet tall 877 00:42:07,100 --> 00:42:05,190 it was brownish with sort of dark 878 00:42:09,230 --> 00:42:07,110 brownish splotches all over it and I 879 00:42:11,630 --> 00:42:09,240 flipped out I completely flipped out I 880 00:42:13,310 --> 00:42:11,640 started backing up in bed I had like the 881 00:42:15,620 --> 00:42:13,320 adrenaline rushing through me like you 882 00:42:17,630 --> 00:42:15,630 wouldn't believe and I was starting to 883 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:17,640 scream you know like what is this thing 884 00:42:22,820 --> 00:42:20,490 this was not like your typical grey this 885 00:42:25,430 --> 00:42:22,830 was not like anything there was nothing 886 00:42:29,870 --> 00:42:25,440 like that in any UFO literature that I'd 887 00:42:33,790 --> 00:42:29,880 ever heard of or read about and so as I 888 00:42:37,730 --> 00:42:33,800 was freaking out it basically said to me 889 00:42:39,290 --> 00:42:37,740 telepathically into my head stop what 890 00:42:42,170 --> 00:42:39,300 you're doing it's like you're throwing 891 00:42:44,060 --> 00:42:42,180 rocks at me so you know it was like the 892 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:44,070 emotions all the emotions that I had 893 00:42:49,250 --> 00:42:46,530 were affecting it so I calmed down a bit 894 00:42:51,230 --> 00:42:49,260 and it said we're from the signal and 895 00:42:52,940 --> 00:42:51,240 that was the meaning we called that the 896 00:42:57,620 --> 00:42:52,950 project that we were working on the 897 00:43:00,290 --> 00:42:57,630 signal and we're from the signal and we 898 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:00,300 are we want to help you and we want you 899 00:43:05,330 --> 00:43:02,370 to help us hmm 900 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:05,340 so that you know I didn't say anything 901 00:43:10,100 --> 00:43:06,930 the other viewers but then after that 902 00:43:13,010 --> 00:43:10,110 well another viewer was visited the same 903 00:43:15,830 --> 00:43:13,020 way and then another viewer was visited 904 00:43:18,460 --> 00:43:15,840 the same way so at that point we started 905 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:18,470 to dig into what the heck was going on 906 00:43:23,030 --> 00:43:21,090 and what they wanted because they were 907 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:23,040 around and so they started showing up 908 00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:26,010 more after that and they were interested 909 00:43:33,050 --> 00:43:29,910 in a species on this planet that they 910 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:33,060 were genetically related to which was a 911 00:43:42,290 --> 00:43:37,890 Firefly I mean this is just this so they 912 00:43:45,020 --> 00:43:42,300 they were concerned about a specific 913 00:43:47,990 --> 00:43:45,030 species of Firefly called tear optics 914 00:43:52,270 --> 00:43:48,000 tenner that all flashes in unison in 915 00:43:54,500 --> 00:43:52,280 Malaysia and these are you know they are 916 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:54,510 only in two places on earth 917 00:43:59,510 --> 00:43:57,650 in the Amazon and in Malaysia they 918 00:44:02,050 --> 00:43:59,520 wanted us 919 00:44:05,060 --> 00:44:02,060 to help save this the environment 920 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:05,070 because it was being destroyed and they 921 00:44:09,980 --> 00:44:07,290 were gonna go extinct because they were 922 00:44:12,380 --> 00:44:09,990 genetically related to them and they had 923 00:44:15,380 --> 00:44:12,390 said also that you know we didn't come 924 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:15,390 here for humans we we don't want nothing 925 00:44:18,620 --> 00:44:17,130 to do with humans we were just going to 926 00:44:21,170 --> 00:44:18,630 them but you stepped in the way and we 927 00:44:26,420 --> 00:44:21,180 thought it was interesting so can you 928 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:26,430 help us Wow 929 00:44:32,060 --> 00:44:29,370 alright unfortunately we've only got 930 00:44:33,290 --> 00:44:32,070 about four and a half or about really 931 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:33,300 about three and a half minutes left in 932 00:44:38,810 --> 00:44:35,010 the show but I want to get this question 933 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:38,820 in from one of our listeners Larry on 934 00:44:46,070 --> 00:44:44,090 Twitter wants to know if your if any of 935 00:44:47,870 --> 00:44:46,080 from your group has gotten in trouble 936 00:44:51,020 --> 00:44:47,880 from an agency for remote viewing 937 00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:51,030 something that you weren't supposed to 938 00:44:55,850 --> 00:44:52,800 remote view like maybe the White House 939 00:44:59,060 --> 00:44:55,860 or area 51 or something like that yeah 940 00:45:02,840 --> 00:44:59,070 yeah it's happened a number of times I'd 941 00:45:05,570 --> 00:45:02,850 say about three times at least we've 942 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:05,580 been warned well we had death threats 943 00:45:10,730 --> 00:45:09,090 for one thing by a covert agency so on 944 00:45:13,310 --> 00:45:10,740 the one hand we were working with you 945 00:45:15,260 --> 00:45:13,320 know handlers and certain agencies and 946 00:45:17,420 --> 00:45:15,270 there was another agency that would well 947 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:17,430 basically give us death threats trying 948 00:45:26,150 --> 00:45:21,570 to shut us down so yeah one time we 949 00:45:29,990 --> 00:45:26,160 inadvertently remote viewed the stealth 950 00:45:34,010 --> 00:45:30,000 fighter when it was classified mm-hmm it 951 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:34,020 was it was so it had been declassified 952 00:45:39,950 --> 00:45:36,450 but we remote viewed actually the the 953 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:39,960 classified project but it was 954 00:45:43,460 --> 00:45:41,850 Declassified when you remote unit but 955 00:45:46,130 --> 00:45:43,470 you know you still can't go in and 956 00:45:48,860 --> 00:45:46,140 remote view the classified parts we 957 00:45:54,170 --> 00:45:48,870 found out because what happened later on 958 00:45:57,290 --> 00:45:54,180 that night is three two or three of the 959 00:46:00,310 --> 00:45:57,300 remote viewers were were buzzed by a 960 00:46:03,830 --> 00:46:00,320 triangle UFO coming over their house 961 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:03,840 very low and basically the way they 962 00:46:10,070 --> 00:46:06,410 described it was that it was like this 963 00:46:13,010 --> 00:46:10,080 sound that just generated immense fear 964 00:46:13,250 --> 00:46:13,020 came just shooting out of this craft you 965 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:13,260 know 966 00:46:19,820 --> 00:46:15,690 very directed to them and then after 967 00:46:21,350 --> 00:46:19,830 that it was a phone call that we 968 00:46:24,140 --> 00:46:21,360 shouldn't be remote-viewing that stuff 969 00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:24,150 so yeah it happens and so we're very 970 00:46:28,700 --> 00:46:26,400 careful with anything classified don't 971 00:46:30,260 --> 00:46:28,710 do it we don't do it mmm all right 972 00:46:32,630 --> 00:46:30,270 listen two minutes left in the show so 973 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:32,640 once you let our audience know where 974 00:46:36,950 --> 00:46:34,770 your website where they can find out 975 00:46:37,730 --> 00:46:36,960 more about you and where they can get a 976 00:46:40,580 --> 00:46:37,740 copy of your book 977 00:46:44,050 --> 00:46:40,590 yeah my website is right hemispheric 978 00:46:47,510 --> 00:46:44,060 comm and I do a lot of training I am 979 00:46:50,810 --> 00:46:47,520 will will do projects and release those 980 00:46:52,690 --> 00:46:50,820 in video form or you know in just 981 00:46:55,190 --> 00:46:52,700 writing about them on the website and 982 00:46:57,410 --> 00:46:55,200 you can find my book on Amazon the time 983 00:47:01,340 --> 00:46:57,420 before the secret words easy to find 984 00:47:03,980 --> 00:47:01,350 just search for it should be there whoa 985 00:47:05,930 --> 00:47:03,990 John thank you very much great great 986 00:47:09,130 --> 00:47:05,940 having you on tonight I appreciate you 987 00:47:11,780 --> 00:47:09,140 guys I really love your show oh yeah 988 00:47:14,050 --> 00:47:11,790 pass the word man pass the word and 989 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:14,060 don't forget to tune into our YouTube 990 00:47:21,290 --> 00:47:18,210 channel mr. UFO secret files with some 991 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:21,300 great cartoon animation you and I are 992 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:23,490 featured as cartoon characters without 993 00:47:30,260 --> 00:47:26,330 them we can't get away from this I guess 994 00:47:35,210 --> 00:47:30,270 us and SpongeBob SquarePants there you 995 00:47:38,970 --> 00:47:35,220 go okay well rock and roll dr. 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